Comments on: Unbeknown or Unbeknownst? https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/ English Translation from German, Spanish, and Catalan; English Editing and Writing Fri, 09 Feb 2018 21:55:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.2 By: Karen https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-8072 Fri, 09 Feb 2018 21:55:15 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-8072 Just realised I wrote ‘among us Brits’ instead of amongst – see what the internet and US TV has done to me?! Whatever next?

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By: Karen https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-8071 Fri, 09 Feb 2018 21:53:06 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-8071 I’ve been speaking British English all my life and never ever heard ‘unbeknown’. My PC has duly underlined it with a red squiggle as I wrote it just now. Whereas ‘unbeknownst’ is ubiquitous among us Brits (and not underlined in red squiggle). I would have thought that US English would prefer ‘unbeknown’ as it is so fond of dropping the ‘st’ from the end of our lovely British words like ‘whilst’ ‘amongst’ and ‘amidst’! haha

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By: Chendaddy https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-2238 Thu, 03 Nov 2016 06:02:19 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-2238 It amazes me that grammar always sparks such heated (and yet, for obvious reasons, grammatically correct) debate across the Internet. I grew up in the states and always used “unbeknownst,” so I came knocking here when one of our Chinese translators used “unbeknown.” She did her university studies in the U.S., but the English taught in China academically is usually the British variety.

My only grammatical contribution to this discussion is to caution certain people whose examples using “unbeknown” actually should have just used “unknown.”

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By: George https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-1145 Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:54:00 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-1145 Excellent and invaluable. Since I find unbeknownST to be somewhat ostentatious, I’ll feel much better knowing I can safely use unbeknown, especially as there seems to be no suitable replacement for either variable.

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By: Julie https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-1089 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 06:19:14 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-1089 I have been reading American novels of late and have come across words that I never heard of! Unbeknownst is one such word!

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By: Doug https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-1055 Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:58:01 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-1055 Of course, vulgar was used in a different sense in 1848.

Characteristic of or belonging to ordinary people.

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By: Ian Murray https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-1028 Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:18:27 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-1028 speaker of british English (and proud of it, man) and have always used unbeknownst.

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By: Dunetraveller https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-959 Thu, 27 Mar 2014 01:53:51 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-959 The -st version may be a “vulgar” formation which simply means people took matters into their own hands and made a new form of a word, it does NOT say, nor does it follow, it is an Americanism. Doesn’t really matter where it started since it obviously made it to the other side of the Atlantic. Take you pick and watch the grammar since one form is only an adverb.

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By: shellyscorner https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-823 Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:47:14 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-823 @bossrat
And who would have EVER thought that AIN’T would make it into the dictionary! 30+(a couple of years) ago when I was still in high school, we actually used to argue about it. I used to argue that it would PERHAPS become acceptable to use “ain’t”, but I DID NOT believe that it would EVER be put in the dictionary! Guess we know who has pie on their face now! (I would have preferred Coconut Cream Pie over Lemon Meringue Pie though!)

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By: bossrat https://belletra.com/editor-at-large/98/#comment-774 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:46:39 +0000 http://belletra.com/?p=98#comment-774 ‘Unbeknownst’ is another made up U.S. word that has hatched out of the host and is taking over.

It is a Frankenstein’s monster of a word, with no basis in grammar. Even the U.S. dictionary.com says this:

unbeknownst
1848, vulgar formation from unbeknown (1636). No clear reason for the -st, but since 19c. this has become the dominant form.

You wait, with the current level of blind ignorance, somethink, nothink and everythink etc. will soon gain their places in the dictionary.

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